Support & Info Thread for Aussies

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LGXDownunder
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Re: Support & Info Thread for Aussies

Postby LGXDownunder » Wed Dec 24, 2025 5:37 pm

AussiePete wrote:
AussiePete wrote:Greetings from a very HOT Perth.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Pete

Best wishes Pete, it has been hot here in the east as well.
Looking forward to another trip to WA in the not too distant future.

AussiePete wrote:lgx
Greetings... Christmas morning here and about to head to the beach for a traditional dip in the ocean.
I'm heading east on New Years Day then cruising to NZ from Melbourne on the 4th of January..

Greetings Pete. Heading off to Christmas lunch with family on a much cooler day thankfully.
Coincidentally cruising to NZ end of Jan, from Sydney :).
72, married, Sydney Oz. PC/nerve sparing RRP Mar 2022 caused 100% total ED. Tried pills, Trimix inj, focal shockwave, VED. All failed. Implanted Mar 6 2025 AMS 700 LGX 21cm x 12mm, no RTEs, MS pump, Penoscrotal. Back to 6.5" BPEL @ 9m. Loving it.

Doggedly_positive
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Re: Support & Info Thread for Aussies

Postby Doggedly_positive » Wed Dec 24, 2025 6:45 pm

Season's greetings to all, here in Oz and abroad.
Had a lovely Xmas morning bonk and now relaxing with the family.
RALP with 75% nerve sparing 10/24.
Some tumescence from 5 weeks post op. Erection improved with pills, stalling @ 60%
Frisky with young wife again. Implanted Rigicon 10X 20 cm + 1 cm RTE mid April 25.

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AussiePete
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Re: Support & Info Thread for Aussies

Postby AussiePete » Wed Dec 24, 2025 7:45 pm

Doggedly_positive wrote:Season's greetings to all, here in Oz and abroad.
Had a lovely Xmas morning bonk and now relaxing with the family.

Doggedly
Lucky you!! Seasons Greetings!
Pete
Born 1949, RP 2001, Radiation. Pills, Caverject, Tri-mix Injections all useless. Implanted 2016 AMS 700 LGX. Happy to have a working dick!
Married 45 yrs.
Up for show and tell here in Perth, AU.

Bushpig
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Re: Support & Info Thread for Aussies

Postby Bushpig » Thu Dec 25, 2025 5:06 am

Hi guys and merry Christmas to you all.
Thanks for starting this Aussie thread. My implant is six years old now and was done by Professor Chung in Brisbane. He really knows his stuff and I’ve had no problems with it.
I look forward to hearing more from the guy’s down under and happy to share my journey or experience too.
55 yo Aussie. E.D all my life. Used Viagra for years but. Went on to Injections which worked well but very inconvenient and didnt work sometimes. Implanted Jan'18 with Titan one touch 20cm/ 1.5RTE by Pro Chung in Brisbane.

Oz1958
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Re: Support & Info Thread for Aussies

Postby Oz1958 » Wed Jul 29, 2026 4:44 am

6 months on from my surgery I thought I would document my financial journey in the Australian health system.
There is a lot written here about USA and to a lesser extent UK and Europe, but our health system is so different.

Firstly a review of how the system fits together.

1. GP – General Practitioner -first line of treatment. Cost covered by Medicare (funded by federal government) and/or co-payment. If the GP chooses to bulk bill there is no out of pocket cost. If they charge more than the schedule fee you pay the full cost and get a rebate from Medicare for the schedule fee.

2. Specialist – Urologist, Anaesthetist – for in office consultation billing works the same as for the GP. They might forward your claim to Medicare for you, or you may have to lodge a claim directly. You must have a referral from your GP to be eligible for Medicare rebate from a specialist.
There is schedule fee for the surgery which is covered in part by Medicare. If you have private health cover they will also pay part. If the surgeon charges more than the schedule fee that is called the “gap” and is payable by the patient.

3. Public Hospital – in the case of an emergency you will be treated for free. (funded by state government). Just when you think it’s all free you get the bill for the ambulance. For non-emergency, non-life threatening cases you will be triaged with all other patients in that department and put on a waiting list, possibly years. No choice of surgeon.

4. Private Hospital – Your chosen surgeon will make a booking at his preferred hospital. Hospital costs are either billed directly to you or to your health insurer. Many hospitals use DRG (Diagnosis-Related Group) charging as an averaging method across patients to simplify accounting. There may be an excess or co-payment depending on your policy.

5. Prosthesis – There is a schedule fee for the implant which your health insurance will pay 100%
Download All Prescribed List Items from https://www.health.gov.au/resources/pub ... anguage=en
and look at lines1348-1374

Who pays?

1. Medicare - is a federally funded health insurance. They will cover part of your expenses for both out of hospital services and in hospital services. All Australian citizens and permanent residents are entitled to receive either free treatment (in some cases) or a Medicare rebate for part of the bill for treatment.

2. Private Health Insurance – Hospital cover and/or Extras cover. Extras cover is treatment specific such as dental or physio. Hospital cover can only cover in hospital treatment, the hospital stay, surgery and prosthesis.
Hospital cover generally has a waiting period for pre-existing conditions. A prosthesis for ED will always be a pre-existing condition. Normal waiting time is 12 months. If you are reading this and don’t have hospital cover take it out NOW. The journey from considering an implant to actual surgery is a long one and the value of private hospital cover cannot be underestimated.
There is no specific inclusion or exclusion on my policy. I am covered for “Male reproductive system”.
Private health cover may also include ambulance cover, either in Extras and/or Hospital cover.
Most hospital cover will have an excess, payable on the first claim of the year and may have a co-payment per night in hospital.

3. Ambulance cover – available from your state ambulance service.

4. PBS (Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme) – Federally funded subsidised pharmaceuticals. The cost of many common medications are capped at a maximum of $25.00 for general patients and $7.70 for concession card holders.
Your pain killers may or may not be covered (mine weren’t).
NO ED medications (Cialis, Viagara etc. are covered)

So, how does that look in the real world? Here are my real costs in late 2025, early 2026. As previously noted, the way you are charged and reimbursed is variable depending on the GP, specialist and hospital.

There was a long journey of ED and prostate issues leading up to the decision to investigate an implant. This list starts at the investigation stage and does not include incidentals such as travel or out of hospital medications.

1. GP long consultation
Medicare $82.90 Out of Pocket $57.20 Total $140.10

2. Initial consult Surgeon 1
Medicare $84.15 Out of Pocket $275.85 Total $360.00

3. Initial consult Surgeon 2 (2nd opinion and final choice)
Medicare $84.15 Out of Pocket $195.85 Total $280.00

4. Pre surgery consult Anaesthetist
Medicare $125.95 Out of Pocket $174.05 Total $300.00

5. Hospital costs. DRG Penis Procedure.
Health Insurance $2737 Out of pocket Excess $500 Co-payment $100 Total $3337

6. Artificial erection device, insertion of
Medicare $ 852.70 Health Insurance $607.10 Total $1459.80

7. Insertion of pump
Medicare $141.40 Health Insurance $100.65 Total $242.05

8. Surgical assistant
Medicare $ 198.85 Health Insurance $ 187.93 Total $ 386.78

9. Surgeon Gap Fee
Out of Pocket $500.00 Total $500.00

10. Initiation of the management of anaesthesia
Medicare $ 69.30 Health Insurance $ 85.10 Total $ 263.45

11. Anaesthetist 1:31 HOURS to 1:45 HOURS
Medicare $121.30 Health Insurance $ 339.85 Total $ 461.15

12. Anaesthetist Gap Fee
Out of Pocket $350.00 Total $350.00

13. AMS 700 Series Inflatable
Health Insurance $8070.00 Total $ 8070.00

14. AMS 700 Series Reservoir
Health Insurance $1881.00 Total $ 1881.00

15. 3 months check up
No Charge

16. 6 months check up
Medicare $43.35 Out of Pocket $103.30 Total $146.65

Total Costs:
Medicare $1,801.05
Health Insurance $14,008.63
Out of Pocket $2,256.25
GRAND TOTAL $18,065.93

Your experience may be different
ED since my 40s, managed by pills.
Increasingly severe BPH, emergency HoLEP prostatectomy Nov 2021.
Fixed the prostate but pills slowly became less and less effective.
AMS 700 CX 20th Jan 2026

whatevery
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Re: Support & Info Thread for Aussies

Postby whatevery » Wed Jul 29, 2026 11:47 am

I live in the states. We have all kinds of debates about changing our health care system to something resembling the rest of the world. I've always been mildly for it, but reading this forum and comparing better quality implanters made me pause.

Is it possible to buy insurance in Australia that would cover all your out-of-pocket expenses and if yes, what would be the premium cost differential?
65 yrs old.
ED since about 2000.
Just moved to Trimix from Edex.
Implant doctor shopping now.

Oz1958
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Re: Support & Info Thread for Aussies

Postby Oz1958 » Wed Jul 29, 2026 8:01 pm

By law, Australian health insurance can only cover you for the scheduled fee, or in some cases a fee a particular surgeon has negotiated with a particular insurer, but usually not much more than the scheduled fee. This helps keep already high premiums under control.
As detailed, hospital fees are usually 100% covered after the excess, which can be reduced with a higher premium and the implant is 100% covered.
In a free market the surgeons can charge whatever they like, the difference being the "Gap"
So the only option is to find a surgeon who charges the scheduled fee (very rare) or pay the gap.

Whether it is an implant, hip replacement or pacemaker the situation is the same.
ED since my 40s, managed by pills.
Increasingly severe BPH, emergency HoLEP prostatectomy Nov 2021.
Fixed the prostate but pills slowly became less and less effective.
AMS 700 CX 20th Jan 2026

whatevery
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Re: Support & Info Thread for Aussies

Postby whatevery » Wed Jul 29, 2026 8:57 pm

Oz1958 wrote:By law, Australian health insurance can only cover you for the scheduled fee, or in some cases a fee a particular surgeon has negotiated with a particular insurer, but usually not much more than the scheduled fee. This helps keep already high premiums under control.
As detailed, hospital fees are usually 100% covered after the excess, which can be reduced with a higher premium and the implant is 100% covered.
In a free market the surgeons can charge whatever they like, the difference being the "Gap"
So the only option is to find a surgeon who charges the scheduled fee (very rare) or pay the gap.

Whether it is an implant, hip replacement or pacemaker the situation is the same.


Interesting. Are there special subsidized discounted rates for children or for seniors or everybody are basically on the same level?
65 yrs old.
ED since about 2000.
Just moved to Trimix from Edex.
Implant doctor shopping now.

Oz1958
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Re: Support & Info Thread for Aussies

Postby Oz1958 » Wed Jul 29, 2026 9:26 pm

Its complex.
Children are covered by their parents policy, small discount for seniors, but there is a surcharge for every year you are over 30 that you haven't had insurance, for the first 10 years, and a government subsidy on premiums that reduces once your income is over 105K. Add to that we all pay a 2% Medicare Levy with our income tax which increases if you don't have insurance and earn over 105K.
Need a finance degree to understand it!
ED since my 40s, managed by pills.
Increasingly severe BPH, emergency HoLEP prostatectomy Nov 2021.
Fixed the prostate but pills slowly became less and less effective.
AMS 700 CX 20th Jan 2026

LGXDownunder
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Re: Support & Info Thread for Aussies

Postby LGXDownunder » Thu Jul 30, 2026 2:41 am

Oz1958 wrote:By law, Australian health insurance can only cover you for the scheduled fee, or in some cases a fee a particular surgeon has negotiated with a particular insurer, but usually not much more than the scheduled fee. This helps keep already high premiums under control.
The problem is that it doesn't keep costs under control. Surgeons in all disciplines routinely charge whatever they like, frequently many thousands of dollars above the scheduled fee.

Oz1958 wrote:As detailed, hospital fees are usually 100% covered after the excess, which can be reduced with a higher premium and the implant is 100% covered.
Yes, the same in my experience.

Whether it is an implant, hip replacement or pacemaker the situation is the same.

Oz1958 wrote:In a free market the surgeons can charge whatever they like, the difference being the "Gap"
So the only option is to find a surgeon who charges the scheduled fee (very rare) or pay the gap.
And when you find a unicorn like that don't let go of them. My orthopaedic surgeon is the only one who has not charged an enormous gap. My knee replacement basically cost me nothing except for the hospital co payment and maybe $200 or so for a couple of specialist post op x rays while I was recovering in hospital. He also did my wife's hip replacement and that was the same, close enough to free.
He's also a very well respected high volume ortho surgeon and a really nice guy.

Oz1958, Your overall out of pocket costs are the second lowest I've seen on here for an Aussie for IPP surgery. There aren't a lot of Aussies on here but those who have posted their financials are typically $8,000 to $10,000 out of pocket. Most, if not all of that, is the gap for the surgeon's fee. My own was $7,800. My uro surgeon argues that his fees are substantially lower than most of his colleagues. I've checked around and he seems to be correct, but it's very hard to justify against the tiny scheduled fee (which Medicare says is what the doctor should be charging, but virtually none do). Your ~$2k is an absolute bargain. The only one lower I've seen was a guy from Brisbane who said his total out of pocket was only $400. The whole situation makes the bureaucracy heavy hybrid Medicare/private system an absolute joke, but it's all we have.

I've posted my own costs elsewhere on FT previously but I'll repeat them here for comparison in case it helps anyone researching:
After I received a final statement from the private hospital where my surgery was done I was able to calculate the full cost of my procedure, with some limitations. They itemised everything as follows and the amounts are all in AUD.
Some item numbers are Australian Medicare (I think, without checking) and the "BS" ones I'm assuming are Boston Scientific.

ASO ADV SURG PR 1-14 DAYS $1,120.00 (this would be private room accommodation for 2 days)
Item Code 37429 PENIS artificial ERECTION $2,149.00
Item Code 37426 PENIS artificial ERECTION $485.76
Item Code BS423 AMS 700 Series Inflatable $655.00
Item Code BS414 AMS 700 Series Inflatable $1,881.00
Item Code BS413 AMS 700 Series Inflatable $8,070.00
Total $14,360.76 (this was all paid by my private health insurance except for a $200 co payment)

Adding the upfront costs that I paid (out of pocket) of approx. $7,800.00 for surgeon's fee etc the overall would be around $22,000 AUD.
p.s. An unknown is the full anaethetist's fee. He only billed me for the $600 gap.


Its complex.
Children are covered by their parents policy, small discount for seniors, but there is a surcharge for every year you are over 30 that you haven't had insurance, for the first 10 years, and a government subsidy on premiums that reduces once your income is over 105K. Add to that we all pay a 2% Medicare Levy with our income tax which increases if you don't have insurance and earn over 105K.
Need a finance degree to understand it!
It's an absolute mess! You need a finance degree plus a law degree and a medical degree to understand it. It's near impossible to explain it succinctly to anyone who doesn't live here.

Another thing is the Medicare Safety Net Threshold which substantially reduces specialist consultation fees for the balance of that calendar year if you reach it. We just did, and my next two visits would have cost between $300 and $400 each, with usually less than $100 of that rebated. But now it will likely cost me less than $100 out of pocket for each. Sometimes the gap is as low as $30 to $40. But it resets on January 1 and I have to then spend I think around $1,500 to trigger it again next year. Of course the solution is just don't get sick or injured :roll:.

Medicare also has different rules, benefits etc for anyone ex military (DVA), of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander descent, on a government pension and some other categories. Among other benefits it flows through to a discounted consultation fee when using a specialist in private practice.

It's worth noting that private hospital insurance operates on a tiered system - Bronze, Silver and Gold. The category determines what procedures are included/excluded. And of course that is reflected in the cost of the policy. IPPs/MPPs are generally included in all gold policies (but always check) and possibly some silver, but very unlikely at bronze level. Bronze level are generally considered "junk" policies, frequently only taken out purely to avoid the Medicare surcharge. My gold policy covering both my wife and I currently costs roughly $4,000 p.a. and premiums continue to rise well above inflation etc.
72, married, Sydney Oz. PC/nerve sparing RRP Mar 2022 caused 100% total ED. Tried pills, Trimix inj, focal shockwave, VED. All failed. Implanted Mar 6 2025 AMS 700 LGX 21cm x 12mm, no RTEs, MS pump, Penoscrotal. Back to 6.5" BPEL @ 9m. Loving it.


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